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Hagee’s ‘Blood Moons’—Prophecy?…Hoax?…or Something Else?


By Richard Edmondson

A bit like a stirring in a hornet’s nest—this is kind of how you might view what’s going on in the insane world of Christian Zionist society right now. The “other tribe” (as it were) is breathlessly awaiting the arrival of four consecutive lunar eclipses that are expected to concide with Jewish holidays in the years 2014 and 2015.

The matter is being talked up by John Hagee, the nation’s preeminent Christian Zionist leader, who has a new book out entitled Four Blood Moons: Something is About to Change. To be quite honest with you, I don’t pay much attention to Hagee. The San Antonio pastor has apparently been preaching about the coming eclipses for the past year or so, yet I was totally unaware of this until hearing the radio programs of Ron Hall.

It was back around May or June of this year I first started listening to Hall’s program “On the Warning Track,” which airs weekly on The Ugly Truth Radio Network. Hall is a member of that somewhat unusual species of life—a Christian (or at least a former Christian at any rate) who takes the teachings of Jesus seriously. This puts him, quite naturally, at odds with Christian Zionism, for as Hall articulates it, “God is not a racist.” Yet despite Hall’s aversion to this deviant form of Christianity, he keeps rather close and meticulous tabs upon it, and especially he keeps tabs upon Hagee. In fact, Hall describes himself as a “Hagee-ologist.”

Hall has posted a number of videos on the topic of Hagee’s blood moons. Below is his most recent, but you can find the others available on his YouTube channel here. A common theme that emerges in all of them is that this new theology Hagee has developed on the blood moons stands in sharp contradiction to what he has been teaching for the past 30 years or so.

Previously Hagee has always taught that the rapture will occur prior to the onset of the end times tribulation. Yet now he is linking the upcoming lunar eclipses to the the seven-year tribulation period and the Gog-Magog war—which in effect means that unless the church is raptured between now and next April 15, his previous theology was erroneous. Also, if you’re familiar with Christian dispensationalist doctrine, you know that the tribulation ushers in the second coming of Jesus. In other words, if Jesus doesn’t come back pretty soon Hagee, the director of Christians United for Israel (CUFI)—the largest Christian Zionist organization in the US, with a reported million-strong membership—is going to be left with a massive amount of egg on his face.

According to NASA’s website , the lunar eclipses illustrated on the Hagee graphic at the top of this post are indeed expected to occur on the dates given—and a visit to the website When-Is shows that the dates do in fact correspond to the Jewish holidays named. Plus, NASA is also predicting a solar eclipse to occur on March 20, 2015—just as the graphic depicts. Moreover, the eclipses are to be total, as opposed to partial or penumbral, eclipses. When four consecutive total lunar eclipses occur in this manner, NASA refers to it as a “tetrad.” Lunar eclipses, even total ones, are fairly common, occurring roughly on the order of one every 11 months or so. But tetrads are rare. According to NASA (see graph here) , in the millennium stretching from the year 2001 to 2100, a total of just eight will occur.

So precisely what are we looking at here? Are we looking at the second coming of Jesus? Are we looking at a massive hoax? Or are we looking at something else? I’ll share some of my own thoughts on these questions below, but first give a watch to Ron Hall’s most recent program on the Hagee blood moons.

Hagee says he believes the heavens are “God’s billboard” upon which the Divine Creator transmits messages to people here on earth—and of course the coming lunar eclipses are being viewed as a major new message from God by Hagee and his followers. Let’s suppose for a moment, they are right. What exactly is the message? Does it augur well for Israel and the Jewish people? Or does it bode evil? One would not think the moon turning the color of blood would be an especially auspicious sign—or that its occurring simultaneous to important Jewish holidays would herald particularly cheerful prospects for those observing such holidays—but perhaps it’s all in the eyes of the interpreter.

The basic fundamental tenet of Christian Zionism, at any rate, is that we are to support Israel and the Jewish people no matter what—no matter how many innocents they kill, no matter how many racist policies they enact, no matter how many war crimes and atrocities they carry out. This support must continue no matter what, even if Israel launches wars of territorial expansion, for of course the book of Genesis defines the land of Israel as extending from the Nile to Euphrates Rivers. So should Israel therefore conquer, say, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq (either militarily or through regime change), that’s perfectly okay by Christian Zionists, for in their view it would be condoned by God—and of course, whoever blesses the Jews in this world will in turn receive the blessings of God. Never mind that America has been lavisihing “blessings” upon Israel since 1948 and that today our country stands on the brink of economic ruin. This is not something that computes in the brains of Christian Zionists…where if there is any fault at all to be construed it is that America didn’t bless Israel enough.

As I say, and as Ron Hall points out on his radio programs, what Hagee is preaching now about the blood moons contradicts the end times theology he has been propounding for the past 30-odd years. Ah, but this doesn’t seem to have been noticed by his followers. Why? Probably because they are all agog over the coming signs in the heavens.

Blood moon websites have sprung up here, here, here, here, here, and here, and the issue is being discussed on countless other websites, forums, and videos. One of the websites, Prophecy News Watch, sends out a newsletter every few days or so recapping headlines in the mainstream news and offering an analysis on how these current events apply to biblical prophecy. Some of the articles pertain to Israel, though not by any means all. And some of it sounds quite reasonable, expressing concern over things like increased government powers to spy on citizens, or bank failures and the danger of depositors’ accounts being looted. We also find mentions of “wealthy globalists,” as well as Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the like, although any mention of Jewish involvement in these avocations seems to be carefully avoided. The unstated message seems to be that the bad government and the bad bankers are out to get you, but the Jews are on your side.

A number of articles deal with world affairs, and it is here, of course, that support for Israel—referred to in the newsletters as “God’s timepiece”—emerges front and center. “As Peace Talks Continue, Palestinian Terror Groups Prepare for Jihad,” reads the headline over one, while another discusses “Israel’s Final Warning on Iran.” There are also exhortations on the “rise of Islam” as well as an article headlined “Here’s Why Israelis Are Once Again Angry With Obama: ‘Absolutely Perplexing,’” in which the administration is taken to task for leaking information regarding Israel’s most recent bombing attack on Syria. All of these subjects are put forth as signs of the end times, with undercurrents of the Gog/Magog war being possibly not far off, and of course the approaching lunar eclipse tetrad hovers above all of it like a detonable umbra. Taken as a whole, what it suggests is that the entire thing has grown larger than life, larger even than Hagee himself.

Perhaps to no surprise the story is also receiving traction in the mainstream media, as well as the Jewish press, though for now it mostly seems confined to religious blogs and websites. Equally unsurprising is that Christians who have criticized Israel and raised concerns about the treatment of Palestinians are now coming under attack on some of the websites propagating the blood moon theology.

A report at JewishPress.com credits a Christian pastor by the name of Mark Biltz with making the discovery of the upcoming tetrad and its theoretical significance. On his radio programs, Hall indeed seems to afford Biltz a certain measure of pastoral kudos, but he also says Hagee’s new philosophy was developed in consultation with three rabbis. Moreover, he believes the CUFI leader likely is following a script he’s been given to read—a not unreasonable presumption given Hagee’s close ties to Israeli leaders. At any rate, it would appear that someone, or multiple someones, were scouring NASA’s website looking for something to bite on—and they found it.

The blood moon prophecy is based upon Joel 2:31, “The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon to blood before the great and dreadful day of the Lord,” with a similar prognostication also found in Revelation 6:12. We can also hear echoes of this in the comments of Jesus, who in the synoptic gospels speaks of signs to watch for in the heavens (where the moon does not turn red per se, but simply goes dark), and who also predicts the cataclysmic destruction of Jerusalem. But how do we get from “point A,” i.e. Jesus’ comments in the Olivet discourse, to “point B,” the end of the world? Hagee and the other blood-moon philosophers have an answer.

Hagee declares, and a visit to NASA’s Five Millenium Catalog of Lunar Eclipses confirms, that tetrads occurred in the years 1493-94, 1949-50, and 1967-68, and he notes that these dates correspond roughly to significant periods in Jewish history—respectively the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492, the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, and the Six Day War in 1967 (What he doesn’t mention is that 1967 was also the year of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty; that 1948 also corresponds to the Nakba, when more than 700,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes or massacred at Deir Yassin and elsewhere; or that Spain wasn’t the only country the Jews were expelled from in 1492—they were also expelled from Sicily, followed by expulsions from Lithuania and Naples in 1495, the year after the Tetrad was completed, which in turn preceded approximately twenty more expulsions from various locations throughout the following century). And while it may be neither here nor there, 1948 was also the year Gandhi was assassinated and the signing of the Treaty of Brussels, leading to the founding of NATO, took place. Both are events which could, imaginably, be thought of as divenly heralded by a moon turning to blood (and of course Gandhi was an anti-Semite and Israel is a de-facto member of NATO today). In other words this is like a piece of rubber that can be stretched, twisted, and molded into just about any shape…although, at the same time, I will not deny that the confluence of four consecutive total lunar eclipses—either in the upcoming tetrad or in previous ones*—with a series of Jewish holidays is rather startling and not to be dismissed easily.

So what are we likely to see if we look up into the night sky on the four dates in question? Will the scheduled eclipses turn the moon deep red in color? It all depends. According to NASA, a total lunar eclipse “is the most dramatic and visually compelling type of lunar eclipse,” yet atmospheric conditions at the time the eclipse occurs can have a powerful and commanding impact on how it appears.

“The molecules in Earth’s atmosphere scatter short wavelength light (e.g. yellow, green blue) more than long wavelength light (e.g., orange, red),” says the space agency. “This process, which is responsible for making sunsets red, also gives total eclipses their characteristic red-orange color.”

But a host of things which may be found in the atmosphere—clouds, dust, aerosols, tiny particles of organic debris, or volcanic ash—all effect the moon’s appearance during an eclipse. “For instance, major volcanic eruptions in 1963 (Agung) and 1982 (El Chichon) each dumped huge quantities of gas and ash into the stratosphere, and were followed by several years of very dark eclipses.” And one lunar eclipse which occurred on December 9, 1992—a year and a half after the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines—was “so dark that the Moon’s dull gray disk was difficult to see with the naked eye.” So striking are the variations that a French astronomer propsed a five-point scale, known as the Danjon Scale, for evaluating the appearance of the moon during lunar eclipses:

  • L=0 Very dark eclipse
    (Moon is almost invisible, especially at mid-totality)
  • L=1 Dark eclipse, gray or brownish in coloration
    (Details are distinguishable only with difficulty)
  • L=2 Deep red or rust-colored eclipse
    (Very dark central shadow, while outer umbra is relatively bright)
  • L=3 Brick-red eclipse
    (Umbral shadow usually has a bright or yellow rim)
  • L=4 Very bright copper-red or orange eclipse
    (Umbral shadow has a bluish, very bright rim)

So what does all this mean for Hagee? L=0 or L=1 eclipses in 2014-15 obviously won’t make for especially noticeable messages on God’s billboard, and while an L=4 eclipse would be plenty noticeable, an orange moon with a blueish tinge, though quite lovely to look at, probably won’t bear much resemblance to flowing blood. So is Hagee sitting tight, keeping his fingers crossed, hoping he’ll get L=2 or L=3 eclipses? Is this what he has staked his reputation upon? And what if the blood moons don’t appear, the Gog/Magog war isn’t fought, and Jesus doesn’t return? Will the pastor be publicly disgraced and tossed out of his job as leader of the most powerful Christian Zionist organization in America?

On the other hand, is Hall correct when he suggests that Hagee is reading from a script that has been prepared for him? If so, who gave him the script and why? What will we see when we look up into the sky on those nights? Will we see the moon? Will it be the real moon? Does the technology exist to project holograms into space? What are we really staring at here? Is it a hoax? Is it real? Is it pure coincidence, an act of God, or a viper’s coulé? The only thing I can say with any certainty is that the apparition now supposedly approaching will raise within the public—religious believers certainly but no doubt also non-religious persons to some degree as well—a sense of expectation, of impending cataclysm, or that “something is about to change,” as Hagee puts it. What sort of mental state does this put people in? This is the key question. Does it result in massive numbers of people becoming more vulnerable, more susceptible, to deception on a grand scale, perhaps grander than anything we have heretofore seen? And how much of this will Israel milk to its advantage? Will the Jewish state initiate a “Gog/Magog” war by launching an attack upon Iran? Or how about this for a scenario: will “Jesus” return, meet with the Israeli prime minister, go on network TV and endorse Israel’s settlement policy? It seems implausible, nigh outright preposterous, on the face of it, but given the readiness with which millions have accepted the official 9/11 story, that people would embrace something so obviously fraudulent is probably not to be discounted. Moreover, Israel and its Jewish supporters in America do seem a bit prone toward overplaying their hands these days.

Regardless of what happens (or doesn’t happen) in the coming two years, Hall deserves a great deal of credit for his reporting on this story. As we are only too aware, the mass media, as well as our own government, are in the hands of truth’s bitterest enemies, but an ancient and very wise admonition from the Disciple John can sustain us and offer some much-needed help in seeing through the deceptions: “See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you.” (I John 2:24).

My own advice is simply: watch, be alert, and hope that sanity somehow finds a way to prevail…and above all else remember that God is not a racist.

* Biltz claims that the tetrads of 1967-68, 1949-50, and 1493-94 all coincided with Jewish holidays, and specifically, in each case, the holidays of Passover and Sukkot. There are several websites that convert Gergorian to Hebrew calendar dates. The one I chose was Hebcal.com. The conversion program there does show the 20th century eclipse dates as corresponding to the two holidays. In the case of the 15th century tetrad there is a discrepancy of 9-10 days, which is probably attributable to the conversion from the Julian to the Gregorian calendars. The Gregorian calendar did not go into effect until the year 1582.

38 thoughts on “Hagee’s ‘Blood Moons’—Prophecy?…Hoax?…or Something Else?

  1. If Israel nuked Tehran, these same ‘Christian’ Zionists would be dancing in the streets, praising that nation of nuclear-armed psychos for helping bring to life their delusions and the Rapture. Never mind that their ‘Stairway to Heaven’ would be constructed from the corpses of thousands and thousands Iranians.

    If a religion, any religion, including Christianity, relies on the cycles of the Moon to set its holy days, then isn’t that religion a form of paganism?

    The galaxy’s greatest guitarist, Jimi Hendrix, made reference to a blood moon in his excellent song, “Voodoo Chile.”

    Maybe I’ll start a ‘Church of Hendrix’ and use his song lyrics to bamboozle my flock on the way to tax-free riches!

  2. The scientific study of the heavens, aka Cosmology, and the Cosmological Evolution of the Universe clearly shows us that our original creator, the Singularity, has died in what is known as the Big Bang Birth of the Universe, which has evolved many diverse life forms, and as we ourselves, are living off of Her decomposing body, and composed of star dust, along with many other life forms, such as Living Galaxies and Living Planets. Charting astronomical events is a scientific way of looking into our future. Charting astrological events is a superstitious way of predicting the future by causing superstitious paranoid delusions in weak minded false god worshipping fools. It’s a way to set yourself up for a fail. These astrology preists are practicing a form of witchcraft, and should be seen as psychotic delusional schizoaffected babblers. They are looking for a witch hunt not realizing they are the witches.

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  4. Jews did 911 and all world wars and Fukushima. David Dees artist for the Rense website has exposed Rense as a suckup to Jew influence. See Jimstonefreelance.com
    See if you censor this like a Jew would.

  5. @Frederick. That is one of the most ignorant, bigoted statements about astrology I have ever read. You obviously think astrology involves reading your local newspaper’s horoscope for your Sun sign. Truly an ignoramus are you.

  6. I’ve read an article on internet, some time ago, about projecting holograms in the sky. Yes, they have the technology. Perhaps we should be prepared to see Zionists manipulate peoples even more.

  7. I’d like to thank everyone who took the time to comment. Commander Z, I don’t censor comments other than those left by trolls who make nuisances of themselves. At the same time, I’m not interested in defaming people. If you have a dispute with Jeff Rense, please take it elsewhere.

  8. @The Observer. You don’t observe very well. You ignored the fact that I used two different words, astronomy and astrology, and you’re accusing me of not knowing the difference in the meaning of the two words. Please pay attention and re-read. I know it can be upsetting to people to have their myth busted, so I’ll foregive you for your bigoted diatribe.

  9. Thankyou Richard Edmondson for writing this article. Have you checked out the Lasha Darkmoon article that was posted on the ugly truth web site? That also was very good.

    “Does it result in massive numbers of people becoming more vulnerable, more susceptible, to deception on a grand scale, perhaps grander than anything we have heretofore seen? And how much of this will Israel milk to its advantage? Will the Jewish state initiate a “Gog/Magog” war by launching an attack upon Iran? Or how about this for a scenario: will “Jesus” return, meet with the Israeli prime minister, go on network TV and endorse Israel’s settlement policy? It seems implausible, nigh outright preposterous, on the face of it, but given the readiness with which millions have accepted the official 9/11 story, that people would embrace something so obviously fraudulent is probably not to be discounted. Moreover, Israel and its Jewish supporters in America do seem a bit prone toward overplaying their hands these days”.

    The fact that you are not one of the millions that have accepted the official 9/11 story; I hope will reverberate in the psyche of those Christian Zionists that are comfortable, if not willfully ignorant for now to believe the official 9/11 story.

    “As we are only too aware, the mass media, as well as our own government, are in the hands of truth’s bitterest enemies”.

    Also a thankyou to Ron Hall.

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  11. If you believe in Christian or Muslim eschatology, If you believe that Hagee is a pawn of the anti-christ, than its reasonable to say he might be right. Except who he thinks is Christ is our anti christ. In other words hes preaching the coming of the anti christ to the earth. the new leader of Israel?

  12. { Spotted the following goodie on the web. Enjoy it! }

    Blood Moons, Pretrib Rapture, Etc.

    Heard of the coming blood moons? Is the pretrib rapture symbolized by anything in the heavens?
    Hal Lindsey, influenced by occultic astrology, asserts on p. 124 in “The Late Great Planet Earth” that the famous Sphinx in Egypt has the head of a “woman” – even though encyclopedias say it’s the head of a “man”! Hal’s plagiarism on that page of a 19th century British theologian is his acceptance of the occultic Virgo-to-Leo theory – a “Christian” zodiac arbitrarily starting with Virgo (Virgin Mary) and ending with Leo (Christ returning as “Lion,” Rev. 5:5).
    Those who swallow this guesswork often see Ursa Minor (part of Cancer which precedes Leo) as a heavenly “symbol” of a pretrib rapture!
    Pretribs also insist on separating the “church” from “Israel” – but when you aren’t looking (or thinking) they blithely “prove” pretrib by the Jewish feasts in Leviticus, the stages of a Hebrew wedding (Google “Pretrib Rapture: A Staged Event”), and the one “taken” and the other “left” in “Jewish” Matthew 24.
    Amazingly, Jewishness (and even anti-Jewishness) has been uncovered even in pretrib dispensationalism’s 19th century foundation (Google “Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism”)!
    The current “blood moons” craze (promoted by lunar persons including rock musician Scottie Clarke and John Hagee) is tied to – you guessed it – the same old Jewish feast days.
    Yes, there’s something colored red in the future of the church, but I don’t have moons in mind. What will really turn red will be the collective faces of many when it finally dawns on them that their any-moment fly-away was nothing more than an end time hoax!

  13. This is one subject I have never seen more confusion on. The Shruti sounds of the universe were talked about by ancient Rishis. Nobody knows how far back in time they go. However the point is the universe makes a sound. The spinning of the various planets in their orbit emit a sound/vibration/energetic. This is something nobody has to believe. Anyone can experience it by simply holding a sea shell to their hear or covering the ears with their hands. This vibration or sound has always been there and it will always be even after there are no men to hear it, no earth and no universe. It is immortal. In the east it is called the word.

    It is the same energetic vibration that causes the grass to grow, lightning to form in the sky when positive and negative unite. There are no two higher forms in the universe than positive and negative energy. They form babies in the womb.

    This is not a doctrine one need only believe in, place a sea shell to your ear, it is undeniable. It has nothing to do with preachers, books or doctrines.

    It is very difficult for me to believe this vibration formed by the planets spinning in their orbits have no effect on our world. They are held in place by a divine hand if you will, the creator. Of course I could not prove this to anybody, it is just something I know. However the study of astrology began with the ancient Rishis and has little to do with the jews who took up the cause rather recently. Most ancient knowledge springs from the Vedas. When we discount the ancient teachings of the east, we discount most of the worlds ancient beliefs including those of the native American indians, Vedics, Buddhists, Taoists, I-Ching, Yoga and many others and in their place except the doctrine of a people who 200 years ago believed the earth was flat.

    Ancient clay tablets of the Sumerians show our universe as it is, orbiting the sun and they are hundreds of thousands of years old. They were well schooled in astrology and the higher sciences.

  14. It is a man made one and fairly close to the real one. Try sticking your fingers in your ears or holding a sea shell to your ear. The same sound I heard as a kid is still there, never changed.

  15. Oh I was holding sea shells up to my ears when I was just a tiny kid. Yeah, you can definitely hear something.

  16. I would assume this is fairly normal, business as usual, for the ADHD types that look for prophecy in the 20th and 21st centuries. If prophecy isn’t coming true within the near future, it doesn’t hold its audience’s attention… kind of like ethics and logic.

  17. I think it’s a lot of people placing way too much emphasis on the Old Testament. So should we call you “OD”?

  18. “The only thing I can say with any certainty is that the apparition now supposedly approaching will raise within the public—religious believers certainly but no doubt also non-religious persons to some degree as well—a sense of expectation, of impending cataclysm, or that “something is about to change,” as Hagee puts it. What sort of mental state does this put people in? This is the key question. Does it result in massive numbers of people becoming more vulnerable, more susceptible, to deception on a grand scale, perhaps grander than anything we have heretofore seen?”
    ” Your article was both interesting and informative — great anaylsis. I agree with your quote above. I have been issuing this warning on my website and to,qu ote, “Christians” and others in general concerning the deceptive practices of those Dispensational tele-evangelists and ministers.
    I recently read an article on the website “http://propheciesoftheendtimes.com/” and posted a comment which did not quite agree with the site managers Dispensational viewpoint and dogmatism. The guy literally deleted my comments and blocked me (censorship) from his site so that I can longer post a different viewpoint. This action shows how Hagee and those people with the same theology want to control individuals utilizing a false method of Biblical interpretation. They are quite hostile toward others that disagree. The following is actually what I posted on the site previously mentioned. It has no reference to the blood moons, but it is an example of what the Dispensationists strongly reject and ridicule because it exposes the deception. The only other thing I added to the comment was a link to a Bibical timeline that totally elimates the theology supporting the blood moons. Here is my comment to that site:
    “These 36 reasons sound like the same old Dispensational, dogmatic, pre-trib rapture propaganda I have heard for some 40 years. A lot of logic and reasoning, but no strong Scriptural evidence to support a pre-trib rapture – just implications and inferences. But all the logic and reasoning does not make it right. A large amount of proof relies on an argument from silence which is a terrible way to interpret the Bible. Also, as with all pre-trib commentators, sometimes they interpret Scripture as having a literal meaning, then symbolize or allegorize or totally disregard passages which disprove their point. Rarely do these commentators follow proper exegesis of the Word and allow Scripture to interpret Scripture. This method of interpretation is due to the pre-tribbers relying on a Dispensational slant. The Bible never speaks of seven dispensations or ages – it only testifies to two ages – This Present Evil Age and The Age To Come(for example, see Matt 12:32, Matt 13:39, Matt 13:40, Matt 13:49, Matt 24:3, Matt 28:20, Mark 10:30, Luke 18:30, Luke 20:34, Luke 20:35, 1 Cor 1:20. Gal 1:4, Eph 1:21, 1 Tim 6:19, Titus 2:12, Heb 6:5). If one would interpret prophetic passages in terms of the two ages, this would eliminate a large amount of confusion and debate. A proper interpretation of end-time passages will become clear if one links Daniel 9: 21-27, Daniel 12: 1-13 and Matthew 24 with Revelation. A proper timeline of events can be constructed without all the faulty reasoning presented here in these 36 reasons. Here is a link to the timeline that is based on Daniel’s passages and the Two Ages. Finally, consider the following passage and contemplate the rather strange wording of Revelation 2: 10-11: “Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.” Is it possible the Church will be required to endure the first ten days of the Great Tribulation described in Revelation? Decide for yourself if the pre-trib position has actually done justice to the Scriptures. Forget your pre-conceived ideas for a moment and read the Scriptures with an open mind free of all the bias and dogma set forth in the pre-trib teachings – maybe you will see the Word in a different light when it comes to the events associated with the last things. All I can say is that I am not a pre-tribber, post-tribber, mid-tribber or partial rapture theorist, but I am a pan-tribulationist – according to God’s plan and will, things will all pan out at the end and Christians need to be about spreading the Gospel rather than debating the rapture!

    P. S. If the Church and Holy Spirit are removed prior to the Tribulation, who will fulfill the prophecy of the Lord Jesus Christ as recorded in Matthew 24: 14? The 144,000 celibate Jews of Revelation or the 144,000 Jehovah Witnesses trying to hold out to the end?”

  19. Very thought-provoking commentary. I agree with you, people get too hung over silly things like “the rapture.” It’s kind of like they are not seeing the forest for the trees. As for the Christian Zionists, dispensationalists, etc., the words of Jesus, in my own humble view, perfectly sum them up: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.”

  20. I wonder just how many people will be “secretly raptured” on these dates of the blood moon.That is they will be abducted by aliens from another planet.Some will return and some may be gone from earth forever.Perhaps Jesus and his angels are really et’s!

  21. As a child and teenager every time I couldn’t find my mother I thought I’d missed the rapture since she was a saint to me,and the fear was real.I got panicky a couple times when I couldn’t find her and when I did find her she wondered why I was so afraid.I didn’t have the heart to tell her I thought I’d missed the rapture.I really believed all the fear mongering preachers.
    I just heard about the four blood moons theory yesterday morning when I happened to surf by Hagee’s program.He said it wasn’t his prediction but Gods and NASA’s.I found it funny that he worded it like God and NASA may be wrong but I won’t be since I got it from them.
    I remember 1988 and the “88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988″,that was written by a NASA scientist.And I had enough sense even then to know it probably wouldn’t happen.
    According to the plain words of the gospels Jesus promised he’d return and the kingdom would come with power in the lifetime of his disciples;in his own generation.Matt10:23″I solemnly assure you,you will not have gone over the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.” and many others.Even the great Christian apologist C.S.Lewis, that is hailed by evangelicals to this day found these verses”the most embarrassing in the bible.”
    But how many so called bible believers or preachers like dealing with these verses?
    But of course there are 88 reasons why Jesus didn’t mean what he actually said.

  22. You sound like quite the brainwashed, twisted, ignorant lib with your usual rantings about how those neanderthal, vicious, violent low I.Q. ape-like middle easterners are somehow comparable to the brilliant and peace loving Israelis. I do believe that once again Israel is merely defending itself against the hate spewing muslims who are once again attacking them because it is incumbent upon all good little muslims to destroy all infidels. And Hendrix dies too early for anyone to claim he’s the greatest guitarist of all time. All he played was amplifies blues you dolt!

  23. How did Jimi Hendrix end up on this topic,’yes was the greatest,star bangled banner symbolised the insanity of the vietnam war’you can hear the b 52 bombs in his playing and to get back to topic,’this whole rapture nonsense is a dangerous myth,anyway those who preport this ludicrous idea woudn’t be worthy of heaven.

  24. According to myth,a new holy Roman emperor is supposed to rise and what about the myth of the hidden Imam,all these myths and legends dont help anyone.

  25. My name is Yunus, me and my two colleagues, Rev. Jopie Rattu Ph.D. and Mr. Sridadi Atyanto, Ph.D. are studying the endtimes subject and have published some writings that can be found and freely download at http://www.endtimestrumpet.com.
    We are thankful to our Lord Jesus to have discovered many things, some of which are: the fulfillment of 4 Jewish holy days, which is the feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, feast of Tabernacles and Hanukkah that occur precisely on the holy days with the same meaning. Other than that, we are also surprised that our timeline of the End of Times have the same sequence as was explained by Jesus Christ, all in the gospel Mathew, Mark, or Luke.
    Soli Deo Gloria.

  26. Blood Moons; very interesting…But what has the Bible, or to be more specifyc, the apostle Paul, to say about this; the Galatian Christians were well under way to become the Christian Zionists at that time; Paul warned them to avoid Jewish rituals as for example the circumcision. Of the Jewish holydays, he wrote this:

    “But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the” (Jewish) “law; To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons; And because ye are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ; Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed unto you labour in vain.” (Galatians 4:4-11)

    Now, what is the meaning of this; what has all this to do with the blood moons? Well, Paul writes here to those who were already partly “Christian Zionists”, that the old law of Moses was of no any value anymore. And this applies to the Jewish holydays as well; now, whether those blood moons will occur or not, it doesn’t any matter (although we are living in the month of August 2015 now and I still don’t know if anything has already happened!), because it is all passé, over, finity, out. So, if something has already happen or not (or will happen or not), it is totally irrelevant.

    Post Scriptum: John Hagee could been called the pastor of the neo-Galatian Church (if you know what I mean)…..

  27. I really don’t see why John Hagee doesn’t just convert to Judaism and move to Israel.

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    By Dave MacPherson

    John Darby, Paul Wilkinson, and Thomas Ice are among those who have flunked the Margaret Macdonald test by covering up and misinterpreting what she (as the pretrib rapture originator) actually stated in 1830!

    My book “The Rapture Plot” discusses Margaret’s two-part main point (lines 58-63 in her 117-line account): seeing “one taken and the other left” before “THE WICKED” (Antichrist) is “revealed.”

    Hal Lindsey’s “The Rapture” correctly says she taught “a partial Rapture” – that only PART of the church will be pretribbed up.

    Walvoord’s “The Rapture Question” also describes partial rapturists as “pretribulationists,” and their charts show the “church” BEFORE AND AFTER their rapture in the same way Margaret was a “church splitter.” (Google “X-Raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” and “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines.”)

    Both John Cardale (in Edward Irving’s journal in Dec. 1830) and John Darby (in his 1853 book) described their visits to mid-1830 meetings Margaret conducted in her home. Darby’s “recollection” was such a mirror of the many details in Cardale’s published account 23 years earlier that I’m convinced that Darby was merely copying Cardale’s details, and Darby listed all of the details except one!

    Although Darby mentioned Margaret’s “texts on overcoming” (the “tribulation” or second half of her main point), he deliberately omitted her emphasis on “the coming of the Lord” (rapture) as the church’s “deliverance” before the “judgments coming on the earth” which all visitors, except Darby, admitted was a pretrib event (the “rapture” or first half of her main point)!

    Margaret’s visitors included writers for Irving’s journal “The Morning Watch.” Within weeks it reflected Margaret’s unique and original “church/church dichotomy” (“spiritual” church members raptured and “less spiritual” church members left behind) when it saw the “Philadelphia” church raptured BEFORE “the great tribulation” and the “Laodicea” church left on earth.

    Well, if Darby could be a revisionist with Margaret’s words, so could Wilkerson and Ice today.

    After Joe Schimmel’s Good Fight Ministries produced the “Left Behind or Led Astray?” video (the greatest video exposure ever of pretribism’s dishonesty-riddled history!), Britisher Paul Wilkinson savagely attacked it in an uber-unscholarly way in a video produced by the Berean Call Ministry titled “Left Behind or Led Astray? – Exposed.”

    In order to please his think-alike idol, John Darby, Wilkinson deliberately stopped his quotation of Margaret at line 45 so that he could omit the first (pretrib) part of her main point in order to be able to falsely declare that she advocated “a post-tribulation Rapture”!

    Thomas Ice has been even more nervy than Wilkinson, his British “twin.” When Ice quoted Margaret’s 117-line account in the Dallas Seminary journal he omitted ALL OF HER MAIN POINT but made up for it by quoting just BEFORE and AFTER it! (Ice’s “PhD” was “earned” at the unaccredited Tyndale Seminary in Texas which, according to World Net Daily, was heavily fined by the State of Texas for illegally issuing degrees – too many degrees for the Texas heat!

    Finally, if Ice, Wilkinson and other pretrib escape artists love Jews and Israel as much as they say they do, why don’t they want to be on earth during “Jacob’s trouble” to aid and comfort Jews and others? (Some Google items related to this include “Greatest Hebrew-Christian Scholars NOT Pretrib,” “Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism,” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.”

    / What you’ve just read was found lately on the amazing web. Any reaction? /

  31. Google “Left Behind or Led Astray: Paul Wilkinson’s Vitriolic Outburst” [Sep. 10]…,” “A Difficult Response to Paul Wilkinson [Nov. 26],” “Catholics Did NOT Invent the Rapture,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Main Point,” “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines,” “Is John Bray a PINO?,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Edward Irving Vs. John Darby,” “John Darby Did NOT Invent the Rapture,” “Pretrib Rapture Pride,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Walvoord Melts Ice,” “Wily Jeffrey,” “Grant Jeffrey’s Apocalypse Debacle,” “Pretrib Rapture Stealth,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Famous Rapture Watchers,” “Prof. Wm. Craig Leaves Tim LaHaye Behind,” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.”

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