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Is Erdogan Really Severing Ties with the West?

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A Penitent Sinner or
a ‘Viper Who Can’t Be Trusted’?

Is Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan really turning his back on the West? Or is what we’re seeing in the media today all just a charade? And if it’s a charade, what is the purpose of it?

Since the failed Turkish coup, we have seen Erdogan seemingly pivoting away from the US and toward Russia. And as this has been happening, we have also observed certain writers and pundits, including some who in the past have offered reasonable analyses, seemingly begin to reassess their views of the Turkish leader. It is almost as if Erdogan’s support for terrorists who have committed unspeakable horrors in Syria over the past five years is now not worth getting too bothered over–and all because Erdogan now seems to have switched his political alliances.

This is the case in Russian media in particular, but Western commentators have been offering similar views–which is why I wanted to post the following video filmed in Syria shortly after the coup attempt.

The people interviewed are Syrians on the street, who speak of the joy they felt upon first hearing of the coup taking place in Turkey…followed by the disappointment and letdown when news came that it had failed. Well can we understand their feelings. They, more so than anyone, are fully cognizant of the depravities Erdogan has unleashed upon their country.

Clearly these Syrians viewed Erdogan’s potential overthrow as a good thing–as something that could have brought an end to the five-year-long Western-waged proxy war that has plagued their country.

But you can go here and view two analysts interviewed on Press TV, both of them (starting at about 15 minutes into the program) expressing the view that it was a good thing the coup failed; or here to read a Counterpunch article whose author asserts confidently, “The Obama administrations (sic) disregard for the national security interests of its allies, has pushed the Turkish president into Moscow’s camp.” Amazingly, the author of the latter piece completely glosses over atrocities committed in Syria and Erdogan’s support for the terrorists who carried them out.

By contrast, Sheikh Imran Hosein has characterized Turkey as a “Trojan horse.” In a talk given in Kuala Lumpur on July 29 (see video here starting at about 35:38), Hosein gives an analysis of the Turkish coup, offering up the view that “Turkey is being prepared to become the Trojan horse for Russia.” He returns to the subject again at the tail end of the program (1:49:27):

This is not a civil war between Muslims and Muslims. You (Turkey and others who have supported NATO) have left Islam when you joined NATO. And you are proud and happy to be a member of NATO. And now you are becoming NATO’s Trojan horse after the failed coup d’état. He (Erdogan) knew the coup d’état was coming. He knew that Fethullah Gulen was part of it. He knew that NATO was a part of it. He knew all of that. And he knew that the coup was going to fail so that he could have a chance now to wipe out all the opposition there is to him in Turkey, so that Turkey now is strong, without any internal opposition, so that Turkey can now play a strategic role in anticipation of the war against Russia. We are not fools. Erdogan should know we are not fools. And I hope Putin knows that this is a Trojan horse.

Important to note here is that Erdogan is scheduled to visit Russia on August 9 for a meeting with Putin. The Turkish Stream gas pipeline is expected to be one of the topics of conversation. The pipeline would make it possible for the Russian company Gazprom to transport gas to Turkey, via the Black Sea, for export into southern Europe. Talks on the project began in 2014, but were suspended last year after the Turkish downing of a Russian Su-24 jet.

I’m not saying this is absolutely going to happen, but suppose Russia and Turkey were to seal an agreement, and suppose as a result Russia were to invest enormous sums of money into building the pipeline–only to see Turkey, once the pipeline is built, switch its alliance back to NATO and the US?

In the following video, most of the speakers, including the show host Peter Lavelle, take the “penitent sinner” view of Erdogan, seeing him, in other words, as one who has finally seen the error of his ways and who should, provided he meets certain stipulations (like sealing the Turkish-Syrian border to terrorists)  be welcomed back into humanity’s fold. The only member of the panel to take an opposing view is Mark Sleboda, who refers to Erdogan as “a viper who can’t be trusted.”

One of the guests, Dimitry Babich, does make an important point, however, and that is that prior to the outbreak of the Syrian conflict in 2011, Turkey had been well-thought of and Erdogan himself a respected figure on the world stage. Babich is correct in this. In 2009, at a World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Erdogan castigated then-Israeli President Shimon Peres over the Jewish state’s brutal assault upon Gaza (in Operation Cast Lead), and even quoted Gilad Atzmon in his comments! When the event moderator, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, tried to cut him off, Erdogan angrily got up and walked out of the event.

The episode made international news. Erdogan left Davos and returned home to a hero’s welcome in Turkey. Thousands of people turned out at Ataturk Airport in Istanbul waving Turkish and Palestinian flags. And it wasn’t only people in Turkey who were cheering at that point. A leader of a country–and not just any country, but a member of NATO–had finally told off the Israelis!

The following year, Erdogan’s esteem grew even higher. This was when a Turkish ship, the Mavi Marmara, led a humanitarian effort to break the blockade of Gaza. The Israelis attacked the ship, and killed nine people (a tenth died later), all of them Turks, except for Furkan Dogan, who was Turkish-American.

But starting in 2011, Erdogan changed. He began to align himself with what might conceivably be thought of as the powers of darkness. He gave his support to Zionist attempts at regime change in Syria. In essence it was a declaration of war by Turkey upon its southern neighbor. There was no outward reason for this sudden shift in policy. Relations between Syria and Turkey had been cordial up until this point. Why did Erdogan do it? I don’t know the answer to that, but I am reminded here of the temptation of Christ as told of in the gospels. I’ll quote a bit from the Gospel of Matthew:

Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”
Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”

Did the Zionists promise Erdogan “the kingdoms of the world and their splendor” if he would cooperate in the regime change effort in Syria? Did they promise him a newly-reestablished Ottoman empire in a Middle East with redrawn national boundaries? Or perhaps fabulous wealth from stolen oil? And is that why US leaders had nothing to say when Turkish troops entered northern Iraq in the latter part of last year? Is it why they still have nothing to say about their presence there now?

Is it also possible this is why they had nothing to say about Turkish support for ISIS–even after Russian surveillance exposed ISIS convoys of stolen oil entering Turkey?

And here is  perhaps the most pertinent question of all: Now that Turkey has carried out a policy of treachery against its Syrian neighbors over the past five years, has it at this time begun to plan a further treachery against Russia?

I don’t know the answer to these questions, but I’m inclined to agree with Sleboda when he offers the opinion that Erdogan is “a viper who can’t be trusted.”

Another point worth making is that most of Erdogan’s opposition is now jailed, which, as Hosein points out, gives the Turkish leader a much freer hand. This means that should he commit some outrage, against Russia or another country, Turkish civil society will be much less able to mount any sort of effective opposition.

5 thoughts on “Is Erdogan Really Severing Ties with the West?

  1. erdogan is a viper. jewmurderka is a sewer of snakes
    turkey should be filled with russian agents with eyes, ears wide open
    since my head is spinning and i know not what
    i will go with the coup being real but why a poor one dont know
    if the house fumigation by erdogan is against judaized, westernized vermin, ok. keep at it. all countries should do same. i will day dream the people will hit the streets again if this is all trickery.
    any double cross of russia added to the downed fighter and murdered pilot will bring serious consequences to erdogan

    • For the people who participated in the coup, I’m sure it was real. For Erdogan, on the other hand, it quite possibly was an experiment to see who was loyal to him, and who wasn’t. That’s of course if you take the position that it was never designed to succeed in the first place.

  2. I think that there is a much simpler explanation. Until Davos and the Mavi Mamara, Erdogan was voting his conscience and his Islamic principles. His country was essentially peaceful and he had made accommodation with the Kurds and the ‘Islamic’ parties. Once he stood against Israel he incurred the wrath of the Zionists. They, as always, used proxies (ie the CIA) to start unrest and revolution in the south east, pushed Gulen(ism) in the intellectuals and started that grand Turkish tradition of plotting against everyone.
    Syria and the rise of Kurds on his southern Border, the Peshmerga and the push for a separate Kurdish state, supported by USA caused a major problem. To support Assad would incur the wrath of NATO, to support the Kurds was unthinkable, he (and NATO) supported the ‘Moderates’ which turned out to be the ‘Incompetents’. ISIL (also NATO) created wealth for the family and an slightly more competent opposition to Assad. Then they started filming atrocities (shot against ‘green screens’ and with professional voice overs) and releasing them in Israeli approved web sites. Instead of scaring the Syrians, it angered the US and EU sheep.
    Israel said ‘screw with us and you get insurrection from the Kurds’, and started pushing the KWP or more likely setting off terror attacks and false flagging the KWP, which caused Erdogan to panic and over-react against his own population. Same as we saw in Cairo, Benghazi, Damascus, Kiev, Tbilisi, and Bagdad, (hey it works, don’t knock it)
    The CIA decided that ISIL was a wonderful method of putting pressure on Russia to give up on Ukraine, Eurasia and just plain give up to the US hegemony. When Putin refused to roll the Russian people of Donbas and Crimea over to the NATO-Nazis, then ISIL became the means to attack Russia’s southern border. In destroying ISIL, Russia had to also hurt the Erdogan family business and Turkey’s pride. NATO targeted the Russian jet and got some poor Turkish pilot to pull the trigger. Erdogan could not deny the action and had to make up the ridiculous 19 second incursion story. Rather than starting WW3, Putin slapped Turkey and took away 30% (maybe more) of it’s income.
    Instead of being satisfied with the progress and being patient, Mossad-CIA decided that they could push things along by replacing Erdogan with someone more like (yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir) Saakashvili.
    Hence the attempted coup. Russia warned Erdogan what was happening and Tehran told him how to beat the blighters.
    Erdogan might be a viper, but he is leaving the Israel-NATO-Mossad-CIA viper nest.
    He knows how dangerous it is for Turkey to leave, but he also knows how dangerous it is for ‘Erdogan’ to remain.

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  4. Erdogan is not a friend of the west or Russia,he is a islamist and a neo imperialist,he even wished that Turkey had been a part of the Iraq 2003 Anglo American invasion force,probably to carve out territory for neo imperial expansion into the Arab world.Erdogan’s renewed relationship with Russia has more to with the new multi polar world reality of Russia and China, and a declining US empire, also he fears Vladimir Putin,he probably has nightmare dreams of a FSB agent standing over him while he sleeps with a silencer equipped pistol,after the assassination of the Russian pilot,he has since apologized and piously reiterated that Orthodox Christian rights were observed,but as we Brits say he was bricking it..

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